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SOAKING LIMA BEANS abstract submitted to Spanking and Poetry Conference's, How To Do Things with Words and Other Materials @ 11:56pm. Phew, very much a first pass, but it's out there in the atmosphere; a collaboration about collaborating with works in process. How To Do Things with Words and Other Materials: Artist Books Show-and-Tell (Curated by Allen Durgin), English Student Association Conference, Feb 25-26, 2010, The Graduate Center, The City University of New York
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what is the next phase? do they pick a few abstracts they like and then you go on to create an installation or something? is there just one? tell me.
Oh they pick a lot I think, and then there are all sorts of possibilities for installation. It can be a book or art.
http://sedgwickconference.wordpress.com/conference-cfa/
Can I talk about how in love with the first spread I am? It's the only one I spent significant time on, the rest (by the time I went through a billion images) were more or less about getting it on the page.
Can someone rip this apart? Ideas of time, etc..? Especially the discourse presented on page 1, serious thoughts please?
some quick comments:
i hate the four-block symmetry on page 4.
the curvy alignment (or lack thereof) of #2 is also killing me.
kudos on page 1. it is great.
i love that you blow the lid off of the project, but the meat of it is so good that you don't stop reading. if you're that honest in the beginning, you've got to be sincere through the whole thing, right?
maybe a re-worked spread can have more of that "piecey" feel (like on #1). i like looking at a spread where i can't get what the whole bean is like from any one photo. it's almost like there's an invisible window frame that won't let me get the whole thing. that appeals to me.
I know, number four is so dumb, too bad it's the best images and strongest poem.
I was going to make the images much smaller and turn the four stanzas into captions, but then I chickened out at the last minute because it just wasn't necessary.
oh number 2, what do you mean curvy alignment? I don't really like it when text follows too strong a curve, text along a path seems dated to me, circa 1998. Hmmm, Idk, I was happy with 2.
i mean the bottom right. the right justification makes it look curvy just because of the length of the sentence. what if it is broken up into lines of 3-4 and spread them across the bottom?
like this:
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i don't know, you wanted suggestions.
Oh well I meant for that curve to happen, but because it was switching from right to left. Interesting about the broken lines, can you do that with a poem that's already in stanza? hmnmm
oh yes, thanks for the help Dylan. Post something w/ your lib soon!!!
will post soon! BIG review thurs, so i'll be posting after that. no time!
i love the gracefulness of #1. the other ones look a bit forced. i actually like #2 but think of the pictures in similar proportions as #1. it was working for you.
also not feeling text on picture action. let them BREATHE.
that's a good point Kaitlyn. Maybe the text needs to stay off the picture...a play with margins Temps.
Yeah, we'd talked before about overlaying the text like layers. But I think it's not working too. Aslo, I agree the margins aren't doing enough, as of now they only ever go from quarter to full bleed on one or two sides.
All I got to say is. Simple. Want it simple. (Should have said that more when I was doing this.)
simple: one full bleed image. maybe one inset into that large image that is very small.
leave a sliver of white space at the bottom for words.
the words will seem like they explain the image (like a caption).
Duh. I told you I wanted captions. Me and ros were talking about that. The problem here is that the poems weren't written for the images and vice versa. So from now on that's what will happen. I'll Illustrate or she'll caption etc....
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